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16G is making our recording expieriance suck
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe we need a new forum on here, hippity- called-

NOOKS AND CRANNIES

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bazzio wrote:
Yeah well Dylan Thomas was Bob's father, we all know that 60's! Not everyone was born yesterday.

Who's BOB?
some subterranean homeless guy suffering the blues?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! That was interesting. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LMAO...hey Vance...Tip#20something......don't listen to these guys. Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TonyRV2 wrote:
Disclaimer: an exception to all of this was the 'disco' generation..wtf were they thinking?


I loved disco. It was the crazed offspring of funk and R&B after all. Nae kidding. So much so that I just bought a bass tutorial by Josquin des Pres beautifully titled: "70's Funk & Disco Bass." And, for me, disco was defined by the pumping, octaving bass line.

Are you trying to tell me that Bernard Edwards didn't swing bass so divinely that his influence is clear and loud to this very day? What about Abraham Laboriel, Marcus Miller and the inimitable Doug Wimbish? Wimbish was the house bass player for Sugarhill recordings and his invention and style leaked eventually into HipHop. The self-same HipHop that not only nods in respect to disco, but positively headbangs in delight at the awesome palette of sonic wonders so brilliantly delivered by the best disco has to offer.

Disco was as creative and inspirational for some musicians as Dylan's self-indulgent pap was to others.

WTF were we discoheads thinking about? It was an awesome time in my life. I wouldn't exchange all the dance-hi-drugs, sex, ass-shaking mania and joy that my disco years inspired for anything.

But, most of all, we we thinking of and listening to the great music the genre poured into our ears.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The doctor is in. I suggest you immediately watch 'Saturday Night Fever' while simultaneously listening to the Bee Gees greatest hits at full volume until this passes. Cool (If that dosn't work, I understand that the Village People are looking for a man in kilts.... not to sing mind you...its just a matter of convenience.)

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TonyRV2 wrote:
I understand that the Village People are looking for a man in kilts.... not to sing mind you...its just a matter of convenience.)


Cheeky bastard! Laughing Laughing Laughing

Thanks, Bob, for bringing us back to this wonderful episode.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You mean your band doesnt sound like it does in real life?! Welcome to recording my friend.... Cool


You will learn how to work around these problems. Sm57 and/or room condensor mic in a decent room for the guitar, on edge of speaker.

Bass, DI it. I use a Sanamp bass DI and the signal with a Fender P just kicks ass.

Vocals, large body condensor, get a pop filter too.

Drums..whoa..be careful here

2 stereo overheads, close miced snare, and kick, and usually close miced toms. Rarely close-miced cymbals.

Thats a rundown of the basic setup. The rest..well just experiment

Also, the G is a 16-bit .wav unit, which is standard audio-CD. going from different 16-bit devices, you will not notice a difference in record quality. Just get decent preamps, good mics, and a hell of a lot of free time, and youll be on your way.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh Dave,



He's gone.



Thanks anyway.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh fuck. how come im always the last ones to know these things
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, but he could come back at anytime.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RZ wrote:
Ah, but he could come back at anytime.


Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greatest Newbie thread ever!!!! This belongs in the "what not to do" archives.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a dandy that's for sure.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, guys, I don't have the stomach to read through this thread, especially after the spirit turned south. I agree with the basic point that many folks made, though: you can't rush the damned engineering process in a few days of learning and a series of emergency messages.
It's not rocket science, but it's close enough for many newbies (like me, at least at first).

My question: Can anyone tell me what happened to this impatient guy? Did he ever find any peace with his G, or is he cursing it, us, and our site to anyone who'll listen?

Just curious,

J.

P.S. Judging by his thread title, I'm thinking that he could be a Yamaha insider--the guy who penned the G's famed "professioinal" screen.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crying or Very sad Sorry to hear about you problems with the G. Your not going to find many people on this board who think this machine is crap. It is the best musical investment I have made. I use my G with a Johnson J station, Two drum machines and pads to suppliment for real feel, Yamaha keys and four condenser mics and we are getting great results. Download the info you were told about and read it! This is a very well thought out machine but you have to know at least the basics. Good Luck!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had my recorder for awhile. I still have the manual. Sorry to hear that youre not having much luck. You might have gotten a better response if you just asked actual questions instead of complaining.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 7:01 pm    Post subject: What? Reply with quote

Gmusic, I'm just a newbie here at this forum, but I've been recording analog for thirty + years and digital for at least five. If you've never run a digital deck and you expect to rent one with no manual, and start recording a critical project to be finished post haste, I have to ask, What were you thinking?

I think you could get a lot of help here, but if time is of the essence, return the G and put your money towards recording time at a small local studio. There are fairly accomplished guys all over the place with project studios in their homes who could fix you up for cheap usually.

Then maybe buy a G, with the proper expectation of READING THE MANUAL for week before you even unwrap the plastic off of the unit. The learning curve, for even an accomplished analog engineer, moving to digital is steep! It just seems like you're getting hostile at the wrong guys for a decision that was poorly thought out.

BTW, ten days at the rental rate you specified more than buys the G brand new with manuals. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob Keelan wrote:
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Please note that GS started this thread back last August. He hasn't been heard from since but thank you newbies for more or less agreeing with what all us all farts were saying back then.

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Damn Bob, I was just about to do the exact same thing. Interesting.
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