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gsmusic · newbie Joined: 09 Aug 2003 Posts: 7

Ok well I understand that you guys have spent months with this recorder. I have downloaded the manual, but i wont be printing 220 pages. The idiot that we rented it from was telling us to run it from the pre-amp to the recorder. Now I know we are a little cheap to buy condenser mic's so i guess it will come out a little blurby. Weve done it before with mics and it sounded really bad on a boss 10 track and I just wanted to have a good experiance this time. And what do you mean by setting up the 16G? The eq's, sound levels, etc? And by the way bazzio, we downloaded the manual the day we got it and read most of it over the net. So go ASSUME that I wont be thankful. I was jsut kind of upset that people would be insulting me after 2 posts so I wasnt in the mood to thank people. RZ, capptain, 60's guy, brassman, rick, sixways thanks for your help. Bazzio, WE DID ASK FOR MANUAL, didnt have it. Maybe you should reconsider me having a problem with everything when your the one insulting people and isnt ~all the same~all the best~ sound a little communist to everyone here?

Sixways · Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 7:53 am Post subject:

GS,

Hey man, let me say first off...no one here is wanting to offend you..I've been here a couple of weeks and every one is really supportive..you just have to read thru some sarcasm occasionally.

Now granted, I'm no expert...and if you don't have the manual, you are seriously missing some of the greatest parts of the G...so and bear with me here...download the manual..and refer to the following..........

The very basics of recording...get everything set to actually record...

2. Recalling preset EQ
3. Recalling Preset Dynamics (yeah, there is a difference just found that out)
4. The appendixes are very helpful for explaining what the different EQs and dynamics are for (ie, bass drum, snare, bass guitar, etc)

To be honest, they guy who "rented" you this machine should be beat, b/c I bought the damn thing and had prior recording experience, and I still found myself at a loss without the manual and this board.

The G is very capable, I didn't realize how capable to I listened to some of the music made with it, ie Never Again (nickelback) No more tears (ozzy) Smell's like teen spirit (tori amos version)...all of these (look under downloads or music made with the G) are really impressive.

If you have time..consult the downloadable manual, honestly its your only chance.

6WFS

RZ · Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 3:35 pm Post subject:

Capptain · Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 3:53 pm Post subject:

GS...look...the first thing I would do is go to www.taxi.com and download the studio buddy. Its FREE, and it will at least get you started with some basic but effective recording techniques. Don't touch the G until you've figured out exactly HOW you are going to record. Make a plan first. Then you're going to have to learn to operate the G. But man, I have to agree with everyone else here, If you're paying $130 a week, you're pissing in the wind and its blowing back in your face. Confused

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gsmusic · newbie Joined: 09 Aug 2003 Posts: 7

Ok you know what? I do know how to record, ive done it before, but it sounded like shit on the BOSS. Which right now, doesnt sound bad comapred to the G. This is why I rented the G, hoping it would sound better, but nope. Im not clueless on how to use it, OK??? We did get 2 tracks down before we realized it sounded horrible. Im gonna guess people are still gonna be dissing me for this post. And about the $30 an hour for a studio thing... Im not gonna be charged for setting up the drums and guitars sound levels. Thats rediculous. Besides my band doesnt have that kind of money, WHICH IS WHY I RENTED THE G. Which in all of our minds was a mistake. Whats wrong with, RECORD, PLAY, and STOP? Not all this shit programmed into the G. Fuck this I dont need you people to help me, all your telling me is Im to stupid to operate a G. Hey, werent you when you first tried it?

gsmusic#2 · newbie Joined: 09 Aug 2003 Posts: 2

Arent you supposed to be helping us out? Not calling us stupid and stuff like that. The reason why we came to this forum is for help on hos to get our amps to actually sound good. Some people keep telling us to go out and buy a Line 6 pod. Why dont you go out and buy one for us? And while your at it you can get us a condenser mic. RZ your not helping us so why dont you jsut get the hell of this site and go play with you "great" sounding G. I really dont care what you guys think about this thing. We would jsut like to know how to make the recording sound good. Does anyone on this site understan that?

gsmusic#2 · newbie Joined: 09 Aug 2003 Posts: 2

Arent you supposed to be helping us out? Not calling us stupid and stuff like that. The reason why we came to this forum is for help on hos to get our amps to actually sound good. Some people keep telling us to go out and buy a Line 6 pod. Why dont you go out and buy one for us? And while your at it you can get us a condenser mic. RZ your not helping us so why dont you jsut get the hell of this site and go play with you "great" sounding G. I really dont care what you guys think about this thing. We would jsut like to know how to make the recording sound good. Does anyone on this site understan that?

BRYTER LAYTER · Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 12:29 am Post subject:

GUYS....GUYS...GUYS....CHILL PILL TIME..

I think gmusic has a genuine problem recording on the g,I can understand his fustrationand and to be honest the manual for the g is the most unhelpful thing I've ever read.

Gmusic, the folks in this forum are the most helpful, honest and friendly people you could wish to meet and also the most sarcastic, read through this with a pich of salt and you will find help.

ive found that the g is NOT a plug in and play recorder. you have to think about your approach before you recorde (as in a professional studio. they dont just mic up and plug in, and hope to sort out the pants vocal sound in the mixdown)

The g records what you put into it...if a recording is sh*t then the g will sound sh*t, it's as simple as that. The first song I recorded sound ok, but I having a bitch of a time getting a good sound on my other songs, I put this down to myself. not the g. if my guitar sounds like a dogs egg, then its because ive set it up like a dogs egg.

keep plugging at the g, she is a bitch, but there the best.

now come on...group hug......hey !!! youre hugging to tight...queer boy........ Twisted Evil

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bazzio · Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 1:01 am Post subject:

So ~
If you hire a horse with no saddle to go bronc riding don't blame the horse or the saddle or the guy who hired you the horse with no saddle when you get bucked. You hired it.
Ever heard of "You get what you paid for"? ~ And about the $30 an hour for a studio thing... Im not gonna be charged for setting up the drums and guitars sound levels. Setting up the sound levels is exactly what you're looking for, and by not setting up properly you get the crap sound you're complaing about ~ ie Now I know we are a little cheap to buy condenser mic's so i guess it will come out a little blurby. Weve done it before with mics and it sounded really bad on a boss 10 track and I just wanted to have a good experiance this time. And what do you mean by setting up the 16G? The eq's, sound levels, etc?. You're making your own problems worse by the minute! To fix your problems fix your approach.
Basic math says 5 guys in a band put in $200 each and you got the box and a condenser (that's $50 a week for a month or $25 a week over 2 months or $12.50 over 3) ~ could you do it? Save that is, not the math.
If you don't want to download the PDF manual don't expect to find out anything instantly ~ most answers in this forum are overnighter's and you're in too much hurry, right?.
If you do happen to read this, do what capptain said ~ plan it better. And do more thinking than crapping on ~ that will help you immeasurably I'm certain.
bye for now ~ all the best all the same.
~ bazzio
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BrassMan · Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 3:18 am Post subject:

gsmusic -

Another take on this. We can't necessarily help you fix what we haven't heard. Right now, all we know is that you say your recordings are "bad".

How about this:
1. Provide a list of the equipment you're using.
2. Convert one of your tracks/mixes to mp3 and give us a link so we can download it and hear it and maybe make some suggestions.

vansteve · Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 5:21 am Post subject:

gsmusic,

You are a friggin' moron. Also a dimwit, a shit for brains and a big old baby. If you're too poor to afford a pro recording studio then maybe you're not ready to record your band just yet. Try working on your live sound and show, getting some gigs and earning enough money to pay for the studio time. Try reaching out in your community and finding a recording geek who likes your band or wants the experience and is therefore willing to record you for free. If you honestly expect to rent a digital multitrack recorder and learn to use it well enough in a few days to record a professional sounding demo then please refer back to the first two sentences above. If you want "play, record, stop" simplicity then go to Radio Shack, buy the cheapest cassette recorder they have and record to your little heart's content. Furthermore, any pro studio that's charging you for the time it takes to set up drums and do sound checks is not the place you want to spend your money - it's about as good as the rental place that ripped your po' ass off on the 16g. (I can almost hear them laughing now.) Now, run along and stop bothering the nice people who use this site as a place to learn and grow as home recordists. You need to pay a visit to www.mymusicgetsmagicallyrecordedandsoundsgreat!.com
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RZ · Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: people on this site

Capptain · Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 3:55 pm Post subject:

...Gsmusic...I think you better leave now... Laughing

...I can't take falling out my chair too many more times! Laughing

RZ...thank you...you said all the things in that paragraph, that I've always wanted to say to every insolent little bastard I've ever come across, yet the "Govenor" on my mouth never seems to let it flow...part of being a teacher to these little TURDS I guess.. Laughing

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60's guy · aw16gold! Joined: 25 May 2003 Posts: 2592

And they all lived Happily Forever!

End of story

skunt · something more than newbie Joined: 28 Jul 2003 Posts: 34

Excerpts from the Alfred E Nueman AW16G supplement:
" It's not the ups and downs that make life difficult, it's the jerks."
"It's what you learn after you know it all that really counts."
"Most of us don't know exactly what we want, but we're pretty sure we don't have it."
And lastly...
" When you're in deep water, it's a good idea to keep your mouth shut."

mpep05 · Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 6:01 pm Post subject:

Sixways · Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 6:15 pm Post subject:

TonyRV2 · Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 8:40 pm Post subject:

Thanks for picking up the slack guys...thought I was gonna have to go into my 'ya have to learn how to use the equipment before you learn how to become a recording engineer' speech. Anyone remember the thread for that rant??.... Laughing

Peace,
Tony
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Zim · something more than newbie Joined: 12 Jul 2003 Posts: 40

as someone mentioned earlier...what is your setup? and what mics are you using and how are you micing the amp?
Rolling Eyes

Zim

gsmusic · newbie Joined: 09 Aug 2003 Posts: 7

OK GUYS I dont think its the gear that sucks:

Ampeg B2-r
Ampeg SVT-410HLF
Marshall JCM900
Marshall 1960A
Music Man Stingray
Fender American Strat
Gibson SG
Samson mics

All that and were broke, thats why were not recording at a studio. and its not worth it to make a demo for that much $$$.

And were making this CD so it can be a a demo for venues. So its kinda hard to play shows if thats what your trying to accomplish. I HAVE DOWNLOADED THE MANUAL, IVE SAID IT 5 TIMES ALREADY.

Hey RZ: Im a fucking amatuer boxer, so how bout we have a little match up? Are you gonna go cry now Crying or Very sad

? And your sounding a little like kid that got fucked up in high school by jocks. Almost forgot RZ, im one of those kids that tells society to fuck off and flips off assholes who bring others down(COUGH, COUGH). And Im not no upper class american, the gear I own is what I have special to me. My car sucks, my house sucks, my nieghborhood sucks. Does yours RZ? Does it?

vansteve: how bout you send and email to me at: fuckyou@asshole.jerk